to follow on that and the technology piece you said earlier, it's interesting, we can be enamored with the potential of drones with the ability to do this, but both talking about the -- can we push too far the ability of technology when we consider 15 years of hunting osama bin laden, is that possible with drones and small groups of people in the cia floating around the world, but how much of this is getting inside that information loop is comment on the massive -- is dependent on the massive amount of resources on the ground to do that? you're talking about passing notes and couriers. they're not going to find e-mails, and the critical information we fed into the computer was fed not by passive or active computing, but by actual hands. so tying into that, how possible is it to combat terrorism or to combat any kind of threat if it's not fixed on a map and in a large army if we don't have via partners or allies, if we don't have human beings on the ground to get inside that information loop or to exploit it, then what's the point? >> yeah. well, i mean, i think that you're clearly righ